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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #30 on: 17 December, 2018, 12:34:25 PM »
Gli era arrivata la convocazione al Concilio di Roma, aveva letto attentamente la lettera. Non ne aveva parlato con nessuno, fatto alcun pensiero e studiare retorica era il suo pensiero. Poi, iniziò a pensare alla guerra e sorrise, le sue origini norrene gli facevano ribollire il sangue. Seduto su una sedia a Valencia osservava le forme delle nuvole dal terrazzo.
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The summons had come to him at the Council of Rome. He had read the letter carefully. He had not talked to anyone about it, made no thought, and studying rhetoric was his thought. Then, he started thinking about the war and smiled, his Norse origins made his blood boil. Sitting in a chair in Valencia, he watched the shapes of the clouds from the terrace.

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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #31 on: 17 December, 2018, 01:47:37 PM »
Ernesto welcomed the latest distinguished arrival, before inviting King Lucifel of France to address the Council.
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #32 on: 17 December, 2018, 01:56:00 PM »
After some time passed while ex King of Sicily Deste is not attending this meeting yet, Dusan smiled as he already bet one of his friends that this is going to happen , but also he always respected willingness to fight no matter does it come from friend or enemy, but also that finally all else can see that they are blaming the wrong side for not making peace and that they should turn their angry look to those they favor instead... Then he thought that if simmiliar response come from other enemy regents then why did Pope call for this meeting without first talking and making agreement to the side he wanted to represent in those "peace" negotiations... Dusan put his hand on table and starting tapping his fingers on table in same rhytm while looking forward to hear response from ex King Roberto , a man who represent Roman soldiers and also Matteo of Arberia who will probably act according to the play of Roberto as well... Bored with a whole this predictable meeting , Dusan drink his wine in hope it will help him to stand this meeting which is already lasting for too long to end...
Then he turn to young cup bearer More wine here lad! And feel free to take one drink for yourself, it will help you stand this all... Dusan stopped his sentence as any appropriate word for this meeting isnt really appropriate to be said in front of council and Dusan decided that he will do his best to be nice this time... He just raised his glass to salute... He took his wife's hand and with just a look she knew what is on his mind...
Then he hear its time for King Lucifel of France to speak... Dusan got a bit more interested in what this young and talented King will have to say...
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #33 on: 17 December, 2018, 04:24:38 PM »
Fabiotto had arrived in Rome the day before the Council began.
He had spent it in the tavern. He ate, drank, and slept there without anyone noticing him.
And without anyone noticing, he was the first to arrive in the Council hall after showing the Pope's letter and the delegation of the Grand Duke Ezzelino to the papal guards.
He greeted Ernesto hugging him and knelt in front of the Pope when he suddenly saw him.
Then he took a seat in the files reserved for non-regents.
He remained silent and saw everyone enter standing up respectfully each time a regent entered.
He listened to everyone and thought: "If they will allow me to speak, then I will speak."

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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #34 on: 17 December, 2018, 07:00:21 PM »
Celestino si alzò in piedi e si portò al centro della sala, la sua faccia era rabbuiata. Aveva appena avuto notizia che il pagano Deste Dormolo Proselite non avrebbe partecipato al consiglio. Se lo sarebbe dovuto aspettare. Attese un attimo in silenzio, girando lo sguardo per la sala, poi cominciò:
Vostre Maestà, Eccellence presenti ci è giunta notizia che il re pagano dell'ormai scomparso regno di Sicilia non parteciperà al concilio. Sappiamo bene che questo atto può compromettere il concilio tutto e lo capiamo.
qui però sono convenuti altri reggenti e dignitari che possono dare un contributo alla risoluzione del conflitto. Rteniamo perciò e per il rispetto dovuto alle persone e all'impegno da loro preso che sia doveroso ascoltarli.
Inoltre, invito ufficialmete Roberto Stabia che ancora si professa Teologico di farsi avanti e far sentire la sua voce. Lo deve alla Chiesa, ai suoi sudditi, al mondo intero.
Ora chiedo l'intervento di Sua Maestà il re di Francia Lucifer e a seguire il Doge di Venezia sua Altezza Serenissima Giovanni Soranzo, a seguire daremo la parola a Sua Eccellenza Fabiotto Borgia per conto del Gran Ducato di Cyrene.

Celestino si avvicino poi a Re Dusan e alla sua consorte  e disse: Vostre Maestà, capisco bene la vostra contrarietà a continuare, vi chiediamo però di restare e di preparare insieme ai Vpstri alleati una proposta di pace con la Chiesa Teologica che permetta, quantomeno, di non distruggere più Chiese e di riavere la Reliquia. Sono pronto ad ascoltarvi ma vi chiedo di rispettare la mia dignità di Sommo Pontefice. Qualora non si riuscisse a raggiungere un accordo dignitoso sappiate che resterò a guardarvi mentre distruggerete tutte le Chiese  e i luoghi sacri che incontrerete sul Vostro cammino e quando poi non avrete più niente da distruggere e nei vostri occhi e nei vostri cuori rimarranno solo macerie e dolore, io lì ricostruirò, pietra su pietra e da lì, comunque, ricomincerò.

Celestino guardo dritto negli occhi i due reggenti, era deciso ma sereno, in pace con Theos e, forse per la prima volta, in pace con se stesso. Si voltò e tornò a sedersi.



Celestine stood up and went to the center of the room, his face darkened. He had just learned that the pagan Deste Dormolo Proselite would not participate in the council. He would have to wait. He waited a moment in silence, looking around the hall, then began:
Your Majesty, Your Excellency, we have heard that the pagan king of the now lost kingdom of Sicily will not participate in the council. We know well that this act can compromise the whole council and we understand it.
but here there are other regents and dignitaries who can contribute to the resolution of the conflict. For this reason, and for the respect due to the people and the commitment made by them, we must therefore be obliged to listen to them.
Furthermore, I would like to officially invite Roberto Stabia, who still professes Theological to come forward and make his voice heard. He owes it to the Church, to its subjects, to the whole world.
Now I ask the intervention of His Majesty the King of France Lucifer and to follow the Doge of Venice his Serene Highness Giovanni Soranzo, to follow we will give the floor to His Excellency Fabiotto Borgia on behalf of the Grand Duchy of Cyrene.


Celestine then approached King Dusan and his wife and said: Your Majesty, I understand well your opposition to continue, but we ask you to stay and prepare together with the Vespers allies a peace proposal with the Theological Church that allows, at least, not to destroy more churches and to get back the relic. I am ready to listen to you, but I ask you to respect my dignity as the Supreme Pontiff. If you fail to reach a dignified agreement, know that I will remain to watch you destroy all the churches and holy places that you will meet on your way and when you will have nothing more to destroy and in your eyes and your hearts will remain only rubble and pain, I will rebuild there, stone by stone and from there, however, I will start again.

Celestino looked straight into the eyes of the two regents, was resolute but serene, at peace with Theos and, perhaps for the first time, at peace with himself. He turned and sat down again.


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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #35 on: 17 December, 2018, 07:21:00 PM »
Di male in peggio ... thought Willhelm Tell. (from bad to worse situation)
The former king of sicily wouldn't have joined the council. The king of Aragona adviced nothing to really bring peace, just said he was right to help refugees. While the king of Castiglia and the queen of portugal didn't talk.
But as Tell expected, patriarchals were becoming a bit nervous and wanted to go home. At least, it was Tell's desire.
He was in a room with some of the most important people of europe at the time, people who had fought many battles, who were experts in politics and diplomacy ... but no, in hours, or even more, of talks, nothing had been said to really bring the peace.

How was it possible ? How was it possible that the entire teology couldn't say a price for the holy relic ? Tell once heard that the Norse Relic had been sold for 50'000 silvers, he was sure that Patriarchal wouldn't have given it back for free.
And what about the situation of this huge army of former sicilians in aragonese lands ? for sure after the winter they will be ready to fight again, and Tell was sure that they will bring war on Europe again. Why wasn't it possible to find a punishment to those people ? Why so much obstination from teology in general and so many kingdoms to protect those rebels ?

Tell was thinking that the solution could be only two. That Sicilians offered huge reward to iberian kingdoms and to the teologic church in order to be protected, or that the church and many kingdoms were really linked so hard to that sicilian  army to be ready to continue the war.

Tell wasn't satisfied. He wanted answers. Clear answers ! and starting discussing the main points.
How does the relic worth to the entire teology ?
What want Teologic church and teologic kingdoms (and others) to do in order to punish sicilian and roman armies ?

Those were - according to Tell - main points. And he hoped that the future spearkers would solve his questions.

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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #36 on: 17 December, 2018, 08:59:31 PM »
Taking the stand and addressing to all that were in the Council.

Your Holiness, Grand Prophetess, Honorable Kings and Queens, and other emissaries or Diplomats I salute you all! - his voice was shaky due to the anxiety of such historical moment.

As the representative of the People of France i will convey our will and perspective on this conflict and where we stand currently. Perhaps our once great nation in size but now small though tremendous in virtue and honor can place thins in the good perspective for all our nations.

Currently Europe is in flames, many of our people within our nations are suffering, struggling to survive, to find profitable routes for our merchants and even to keep at bay any religious structure to follow our own faith. This stance will bring more destruction to all leaving no one standing. The victors of today can also face defeat in future such is one of the outcomes of any war. Regardless of this I haven't taken the word to speak of war but of peace!

The peace that Europe craves currently has two main interpretations:

- on the losing side of many theological nations some choose this war some didn't directly but had to support their allies in time of need. Some harboured refugees escaping justice from the victor and dragged other brother nations to the verge of destruction. As we speak here, Iberia is in flames and the regions carry on to be occupied by the invaders that punish all that protect them.

- on the winning side they seek to force peace terms which would be expected and to allow nations to return to status quo. Those same nations that I saluted in the beginning can speak more accurately on what they wish like some mentioned in their starting statements so I will leave that to them.

After such is said and done as Monarch i face one embarrassing fact... These nations which some were our brothers in faith lost and by the religion link that I share with them I can only ask them to step forward and declare defeat against those that you fought on the battlefield. What you did next to move to other nation and leave it to ruins is devilish beyond what His Holiness would consider justified I suppose...

France has no foes! France has accepted her neighbour choices and each respect each other. Rome, Sicily and Arberia did not accept such... They did opposite to be blunt. France was offered bribery in land in exchange of troops to fight for the Roman side. We declined!

Our nation is responsible for their actions and we continue to do so until my last day as Ruler. I call these three nations to justice on the head of their former rulers. Your people deserve better life than of a refugee, if you have such humanity you will oblige to the victor side demands and allow your people to live freely without the fear of being chased from the nations you are currently facing.

If you have some humility you will bow and accept the consequences of your actions. Until then, France will close its borders until peace is restored and all is payed and restore to status quo. Please keep in mind our stance as a nation is based on the ruler choices that doomed their nation and people not on faith purpose since even former Ruler Deste is no longer a Theological follower so we would never grasp the meaning of faith until he actually accepts there are bigger things in the universe than his ego...
Thank you
resuming his seat waits for the replies
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #37 on: 17 December, 2018, 10:09:14 PM »
Dusan looked at the Pope who approached to him right in his eyes and listened with smile on his face what this man said... Then when Pope finished , Dusan with calm voice said: Dear Pope , if we wanted to destroy your churches , dont you think we would be leading our armies and burn it insteadwe sit here on this still very ineffective meeting which you should have prepared better at least with people that you speak for? No one said that will destroy all your churches even tho if i remember well its around 20 churches currently marked altogether of both religions which destroyed our churches first... Unless we are convinced here today that we should not do it... Let me tell you for now its not going in best direction...
Beside that if ex Pope called for a meeting, we would not be here. So you actually should be well satisfied with respect shown to you as we are here and people you speak for did not come to attend the meeting on your call... So ask yourself a question from who you got less respect given. And at this moment this is the best you can get , unless you prove us that you are greater man than your predecessor...
Dusan stands up and come one step closer to Pope But know well that we have faced many enemies and neither could strike fear in our hearts because we have great Deus behind us... So any simmiliar attempt will end badly... For you and those you represent... Dusan approach very near to Pope and whispers I dont know from where you got that we want to destroy all Theological Church churches as its far from truth , but I suggest you not provoce and to give such ideas to us... Because sometimes we do what our enemies blame us we are doing even tho it wasnt our intention just not to dissapoint them. And know one thing , we have gather resources&built and we have destroyed... Its easier to destroy than to build, when you next time try to make imagination about our plans, remember that now you represent many people and then think well before you say it...
Dusan turn around and sit back next to his wife and listen carefully what King of France had to say.



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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #38 on: 18 December, 2018, 12:54:59 AM »
Ernesto saw that Cardinal Sidionio had stood up and was ready to speak so he motioned him to come forward and address the Council.
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #39 on: 18 December, 2018, 01:23:33 AM »
Il Doge Soranzo, che era arrivato a Roma qualche giorno prima dell'inizio del concilio, si alzo è prese la parala dopo il Re di Francia.

"Buonasera a tutti voi !
Per prima cosa ,volevo ringraziore il santo Padre Celestino I per l'invito a sedere con voi nell'obbiettivo di carcare una soluzione risolutiva a questo periodo drammatico che stiamo vivendo.

Molti di voi si domanderanno il perchè della mia presenza in questa sala. Venezia non è coinvolta direttamente nella guerra ma durante il papato di Alexander VII, mi ero proposto e ho cercato di trovare una soluzione di pace facendo da tramite tra il alcuni re Patriarcali e il santo Padre, ma tutto svani perchè non ebbi mai una proposta concreca per poter trattare ed arrivare ad una soluzione."

Giovanni prese un'attimo di respiro e dopo aver guardato tutti i presenti porse a loro la fatidica domanda....

"Quindi ora mi sento di chiedere qui davanti a tutti, avete la voglia e la volonta concreta di trovare una soluzione ?

Se tale voglia non c'è, è inutile star qui a discutere di nulla e continuare con le provocazioni....

E' un fatto oggettivo che Roma ed i suoi alleati hanno perso tutto, rifugiarsi in terra iberica per ricompattare un'esercito più grande a cosa serve? Continuare una guerra senza fine che porterebbe solo a far morire altra gente? "

Detto ciò il Doge si sedette

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The Doge Soranzo, who had arrived in Rome a few days before the beginning of the council, got up and took the parade after the King of France.

"Good evening to you all !
First of all, I wanted to thank the Holy Father Celestine I for the invitation to sit with you in order to find a solution to this dramatic period we are experiencing.

Many of you will wonder why my presence in this room. Venice is not involved directly in the war but during the papacy of Alexander VII, I had proposed myself and I tried to find a solution of peace acting as an intermediary between the king Patriarchal and the Holy Father, but all vain because I never had a proposal concreca to be able to negotiate and arrive at a solution. "

Giovanni took a moment to breathe and after looking at all those present, handed them the fateful question ....

"So now I feel like asking here in front of everyone, do you have the desire and the concrete desire to find a solution?

If there is no such desire, it is useless to stay here to discuss anything and continue with the provocations ....

It is an objective fact that Rome and its allies have lost everything, taking refuge in Iberian land to rebuild a larger army for what it is used for? Continue an endless war that would only lead to the death of other people? "

That said, the Doge sat down


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« Reply #40 on: 18 December, 2018, 03:10:34 AM »
Sprofondato nell'ampio seggio che gli era stato destinato a causa delle sue condizioni fisiche, Il Cardinal Sidonio aveva fino a quel momento seguito con scarso interesse i lavori del Concilio.
Nonostante il cerimoniale imponesse l'uso della veste cardinalizia completa di ogni paramento, Teodoro aveva optato per l'usuale palandrana nera, su cui campeggiava candida la croce dell'Ordine di Santiago.

Le parole lo annoiavano oltremodo, giacchè al momento le parti belligeranti sembravano ferme sulle proprie posizioni. Tuttavia il Cardinale trovava molto interessante esaminare il tono di voce ed i gesti con cui quelle consunte parole venivano condite.

Ebbe modo di apprezzare lo stile sobrio di re Berton ed il pragmatismo di Re Giovanni, come pure la logica inflessibile della Gran Profetessa. Si dispiacque tuttavia di non poter ascoltare la voce del condottiero Proselite, anche se con tutta probabilità l'avrebbe presto udita irrochirsi gridando ordini sui campi di battaglia Iberici.
Ad un tratto venne annunciato l'arrivo della Regina del Portogallo e si vide entrare Freyia nella sala, bellissima e lievemente sfacciata nell'ostentare il suo ritardo. Per un attimo Teodoro si sorprese a coltivare pensieri lascivi sulla grande lusitana, ma un'acuta fitta di dolore al moncherino lo distolse dalle sue suine fantasie.
E il suo pensiero tornò a vagare lontano da quelle auguste sale, verso quel luogo remoto ove risiede il senso dell'esistenza. Poco prima, mentre Isabella d'Italia esponeva con la solita vis oratoria le proprie ragioni, alcuni nomi avevano fatto breccia nella cortina di tedio che avviluppava il Cardinale.
Ioans de Tata, Caterina di Benincasa, il Cardinal De Ponte.
Teodoro aveva attivamente contribuito all'eradicazione dell'eresia di quest'ultimo,, qualche tempo addietro. Eppure continuava a ricordarlo come un grandissimo uomo di cultura, un vero sapiente con cui si era intrattenuto volentieri durante il suo periodo di noviziato. Lo stesso valeva, per Ioans de Tata, beatae Caterinae anuli anulifer, come egli stesso amava definirsi.
La vita mi porta a combattere contro gente che non odio - pensò Teodoro- e pur combattendoli ne riconosco i pregi.
La mancanza di magnanimità avvilisce chi ne patisce, ma ancor di più chi ne difetta.
Ma come spiegare ciò alle facce di legno degli slavi, come spiegare ció all'anima eternamente fanciullesca di Isabella, che pareva trarre linfa vitale da rancori ben più longevi di coloro che li hanno provocati? Come  spiegare ai pagani signori della guerra, i quali non si erano nemmeno degnati di presentarsi al Concilio, che la vita non poteva ridursi ad una serie di furberie ben piazzate?
Teodoro si grattò pensosamente il capo ormai canuto ed emerse dal suo stato meditabondo, solo per accorgersi con imbarazzo che tutti stavano fissando proprio lui. Per un attimo fu colto dal terrore di aver pensato ad alta voce, poi si rassicurò nel vedere il Maestro di cerimonie che lo invitava a prendere la parola.
Con uno sforzo titanico si erse in piedi da solo, mentre la sua protesi d'argento strideva e traballava sul pavimento di marmo, come dotata di vita propria.

Con un sorriso imbarazzato Teodoro si rivolse al consesso :
"Illustrissime, probissime et clarissime Signorie Vostre, sic stantibus rebus non avrei al momento granché da aggiungere a quanto fin ora da altri esposto. Mi riserverei tuttavia di poter richiedere la parola nel caso emergano ulteriori fatti salienti"



Seated in the large seat that had been assigned to him because of his physical menomation , Cardinal Sidonio had hitherto followed with little interest the work of the Council. Even if the ceremonial protocol imposed the use of the full cardinal's garment, Teodoro opted for the usual black cloak, on which the cross of the Order of Santiago stood out. The words bored him very much, because at the time the warring parties seemed to stand firm on their positions.

However, the Cardinal examinated with attention the tone of voice and the gestures with which those words were seasoned. He was able to appreciate the sober style of King Berton and the pragmatism of King Giovanni, as well the inflexible logic of the Grand Prophetess.
Suddenly, the arrival of the Queen of Portugal was announced, and Freyia was seen entering the hall, beautiful and slightly brazen about appeasing her delay. For a moment Teodoro surprised himself in cultivating impure thoughts  about the great Lusitanian, but a sharp twinge of pain from his fell leg drove him away from his swine fantasies.

And his thoughts returned to wander away from those grand rooms, to that remote place where the sense of existence resides. Shortly before, while Isabella of Italy was exposing her reasons with her usual oratory, some names  breached the mental curtain of boredom enveloping the Cardinal. Ioans de Tata, Catherine of Benincasa, Cardinal De Ponte. Teodoro actively contributed to the eradication of Dè Ponte's  heresy, some time ago. Yet he continued to remember him as a great man of culture, a true scholar. Teodoro had many interesting conversations with Dè Ponte during his own novitiate period. The same was true for Ioans de Tata, the beatae Caterinae anuli anulifer, as he liked to call himself.
Life brings me against people I can't hate _ thought Theodore_ and still fighting them I can see their virtues.

The lack of magnanimity degrades those who suffer from it, but even more those who lack it. But how to explain this to the wooden faces of the Slavs? How to explain this to the eternally childish soul of Isabella, who seemed to derive vital lymph from grievances much more longevous than those who caused them? Teodoro scratched his white-haired head thoughtfully and emerged from his brooding state, only to realize with embarrassment that everyone was staring at him. For a moment he was afraid of thinking aloud, then reassured himself seeing the Master of Ceremonies inviting him to speak. With a titanic effort he stood up without any help, while his silver talon screeched slipping on the marble floor, as  endowed with a life of its own. With an embarrassed smile Teodoro turned to the audience:

"Your Most Exalted and Dignified Royal Majesties , sic stantibus rebus, I have not  much to add to what has been said so far, but I would reserve the right to ask later for the floor, in case further salient facts emerge"


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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #41 on: 18 December, 2018, 10:01:42 AM »
Ernesto welcomes the Doge and added:

“I believe that we will soon reach a consensus once everyone has spoken 2 or 3 times, and that there will be a simple and practical solution. All I will say for now is that peace benefits everyone and forgiveness is a higher virtue than justice. The practical difficulty lies only in the details of the treaty.

Now I invite one of the representatives from Prussia to address the Council.”
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #42 on: 18 December, 2018, 11:56:51 AM »
Isabella aveva ascoltato con molta attenzione gli interventi degli astanti, andando r via via riflettendo sulla piega grottesca che stava assumendo quel concilio.

Da un lato osservava la volontà di alcuni reggenti teologici che seppur estranei ai conflitti bellici, reclamavano giustamente un rapido accordo per poter tutelare i loro Regni penalizzati loro malgrado dalla guerra stessa e apprezzò molto sia l’intervento dell’Imperatore Bizantino,  Re di Francia, del Doge di Venezia, dall’altro l’assordante assenza di chi avrebbe avuto il dovere di sedere a quel tavolo, ma che invero non si era presentato per mera vigliaccheria e chi lo aveva fatto si era limitato a poche parole condite d’orgoglio e alterigia.

Voltò lo sguardo sul Pontefice e provò un certo imbarazzo per lui che si era speso tanto per quel Concilio che tuttavia non stava dando i frutti sperati. Guardò poi la Profetessa  che dopo il primo intervento era rimasta in religioso silenzio, si chiese se fosse comoda nella sua armatura. Le versò un bicchiere di vino e le sorrise.

Mentre Monsignor Sidonio visibilmente annoiato aggiungeva poche parole ricordò di quando le era andato a far visita.

D’improvviso si avvicinò al marito e gli sussurrò delle parole all’orecchio, poi si alzò

Dato che i lavori stanno andando per le lunghe senza esito alcuno poichè che né l’ex Re di Sicilia né tantomeno quello di Roma si sono presentati ancora a questo tavolo abusando grandemente della nostra pazienza, annuncio che se nelle prossime ore essi non varcheranno quella soglia, abbandonerò il Concilio.





Isabella had listened attentively to the speeches of the bystanders, gradually reflecting on the grotesque fold that was assuming that council.

On the one hand he observed the will of some theological rulers who, albeit unrelated to war conflicts, rightly demanded a quick agreement to protect their kingdoms, penalized against them despite the war itself and greatly appreciated both the intervention of the Byzantine Emperor, King of France, of the Doge of Venice, on the other the deafening absence of those who would have had the duty to sit at that table, but that indeed had not presented itself for mere cowardice and who had done it was limited to a few words seasoned with pride and haughtiness.

She turned her gaze to the Pope and felt a certain embarrassment for him that he had spent so much for that Council, which, however, was not giving the desired results. She then looked at the Prophetess who, after the first intervention, remained in religious silence, wondered if she was comfortable in her armor. She poured her a glass of wine and smiled at her.
While Monsignor Sidonio, visibly bored, added a few words, she remembered when he  visited her.

Suddenly she approached her husband and whispered words in his ear, then stood up

Since the works are going for long without an outcome because neither the former King of Sicily nor even that of Rome have yet presented themselves at this table greatly abusing our patience, I announce that if in the coming hours they will not cross that threshold, I will leave the Council
" Il mio segreto è una memoria che agisce a volte per terribilità"

Ernesto Strozzi

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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #43 on: 18 December, 2018, 12:30:17 PM »
Ernesto bowed to Queen Isabella.

“As requested, I will now invite those who have not yet spoken to address the Council now”
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Re: Concilio di Roma
« Reply #44 on: 18 December, 2018, 01:36:17 PM »
Celestino sentite le parole di Isabella si alzò e disse:
Vostra Grazia, presenti tutti, credo che alcune risposte questo concilio le possa ancora dare.  In primis sulle vostre intenzioni riguardo la sacra reliquia e quale sarà il vostro atteggiamento nei confronti di Roma, delle sue Chiese e delle Chiese Teologiche che incontrerete sul vostro cammino. Avete voi in mano il gioco, sono qui e vi ascolto.
Alla fine del concilio avrò delle importanti dichiarazioni da fare.




Celestino heard Isabella's words got up and said:
Your Grace, present all, I believe that some answers this council can still give you. First of all on your intentions concerning the sacred relic and what will be your attitude towards Rome, its Churches and theological Churches that you will meet on your journey. You have the game in hand, I am here and I listen to you.
At the end of the council I will have important declarations to make.