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Omar Yusuf Ibn Al-khattab

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[CLOSED]Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« on: 02 November, 2015, 09:20:37 PM »
By the power of Law given to Wallachians by Her Majesty Queen Alisa Dvachevskaya and by power of Order blessed of Our Triune Deus, High Court of Wallachia by own initiative start this prosecution against crimes committed by Stefan Borsa.

Stefan Borsa is accused of violating of Laws of Wallachia for Occupation Period.

Prosecution will be represented by Krul Vrul. He have 24 hours to present accusations and his evidences.

In the same time I ask accused side to name a person who will represent him in the court.
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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #1 on: 03 November, 2015, 09:57:32 AM »
Your Honor,

I am standing here today with intention to accuse Stefan Borsa, citizen of Wallachia, in violation of  Laws of Wallachia for Occupation Period and to prove this accusation indisputably with evidences.

Prosecution will try to prove in front of this court that Stefan Borsa violate following paragraph of the law:

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From this moment City of Turnu is declared closed. It is forbidden for any follower of Pagan Heresy to cross the citywalls of Turnu without permission of Queen of Wallachia or her Chancellor.

For proving that I will present documents which show us that accused person is Believer of Pagan Heresy and was captured in Turnu where he is till now.






Both documents are issues on 2nd of November this year as can be seen on them.

As Chancellor of the kingdom or Her Majesty do not receive any request for granting permission and do not grant such a permission, it is obvious violation of Occupational Law.

The Prosecution ask for maximal penalty - 1000 sp fine and 3 days in prison.

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #2 on: 04 November, 2015, 05:48:28 PM »
Many thanks to Prosecution. Accused can now present to us his defending remarks. He have 24 hour to do so.

(RIP) Serafin Farac

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #3 on: 05 November, 2015, 09:47:16 AM »
Your Honor,

I will represent Sefan Borsa in this trial.

With all my respect your Honor, you should read the conditions of a correct trial a lit of bit more on wiki.

You cand find the rules below:
http://wiki.medieval-europe.eu/index.php?title=The_Trial



The Judge is the one appointed IG; he/she is the President of the court of justice, and is responsible for delivering the final verdict of every trial. Verdicts given by the Judge should attempt to impartially weigh the Kingdom’s posted Laws against the body of evidence provided by both the Defense and Prosecution. The Judge must be present in the region where the trial is made for all the duration of the Trial.

The Judge must be present in the region where the trial is made. The trial is in Turnu, Stefan Borsa is in Turnu, but you, your honor,your not in Turnu. And you can't deny this.
I can't conceive that a Trial without the Judge in the region to judge the so-called "criminal". I can say that you are the "criminal" because you lead by your own rules.

Find screens below:





As you can see is not under your jurisdiction. It is unacceptable what is happen until now, I consider that this Trial is totally wrong and it should not be continued anymore.

Your honor, I demand you to drop out this Trial and restrain order that is made on Stefan Borsa's head.

Kind Regards,
Serafin Farac


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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #4 on: 05 November, 2015, 06:56:09 PM »
Dear Sir,

I must notice that the time when accused could name his representative passed and if we need to follow procedures strictly you violate trial rules and must be punished. But as the justice is our supreme goal we will close our eyes about this minor violation.

For your information the trial is started by and performed in the Royal Justice Court of CONSTANTA, and I am honored to be Judge of CONSTANTA. So there is no violation of trial procedure by my side as there is no obligation accused to be judged in region in which crime was performed or accused to be present in region of trial.

Now, as this little misunderstanding is solved I will give you 8 additional hours to represent you defending remarks.

Please if you have other questions about trial procedure you can contact me privately. In trial room you must strictly follow the procedure and limit your participation by presenting of defending remarks.

(RIP) Serafin Farac

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #5 on: 06 November, 2015, 11:08:38 AM »
You Honor,

So you suggest me to not follow the procedures strictly? This is what I understand from your message I must notice that the time when accused could name his representative passed and if we need to follow procedures strictly you violate trial rules and must be punished. But as the justice is our supreme goal we will close our eyes about this minor violation.. You know that you can be persecuted, if you, as Judge, the man who represent the Law, suggest to the Defence to break the rules. Do you want to bribe me? Speak to hear you an entire country. Also you want to contact you in your room, is something that you hide, your Honor?

Tell me If you are in Constanta, and you started the trial in Constanta, how could the "criminal" could be in other territory. Other thing, if you represent the Law of Wallahia, and for the region of Constanta, how could you put into practice and judge by a law that is not on your jurisdiction, you are in Constanta and you apply the law that is only for the region of Turnu. So, you honor, the trial sould be started in Turnu by Judge Alexei Grozny, the only one who could apply the Law for the region of Turnu.

Kind Regards,
Serafin Farac

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #6 on: 06 November, 2015, 02:09:07 PM »
Dear Sir,

Your fantasies about justice system have nothing to do with this trial but we hear them. Now I give 24 hours to Prosecution for closing remarks.

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #7 on: 06 November, 2015, 04:35:22 PM »
Your Honor,
As the Defense do not object any of accusations, I have nothing more to tell and continue to ask for maximum penalty.

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #8 on: 07 November, 2015, 04:25:15 AM »
Does Defending side have something to say as closing remarks about accusations presented by the Prosecution? Or want to plead in some other way?  Defense have 24 hours.

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #9 on: 08 November, 2015, 09:39:47 AM »
Your Honor,

I advise you to release Stefan Borsa.

You broke the law, because you restrain Stefan Borsa more than 48 hour.
Please read the wiki:
http://wiki.medieval-europe.eu/index.php?title=The_Trial

Also, in order to keep the defendant from leaving town during his trial, the "victim" (or the Judge, when opening the trial) can contact the Guard Captain, who may at any time choose to perform a Restrain act upon the defendant in order to keep that defendant within the country for a period of up to 48 hours.

NOTE: It is possible for the Trial to continue past the 48 hour window of a Restrain act. Once a Restrain act has been lifted, the defendant should not leave town while his Trial is still active or the Trial will end immediately with a Guilty verdict automatically administered.


Please find below the evidence that Stefan Borsa has been restrain more than 48 hour:




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Alex

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #10 on: 08 November, 2015, 10:04:22 AM »
A ticket has been opened for this trial. Until is sorted out, the criminal must stay in region, and the trial is temporarily suspended.

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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #11 on: 09 November, 2015, 10:51:39 AM »
A ticket has been opened asking to invalidate this Trial because the max restrain hours should be 48 hours as pointed here:

http://wiki.medieval-europe.eu/index.php?title=The_Trial#When_and_how_is_a_Trial_opened.3F

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Also, in order to keep the defendant from leaving town during his trial, the "victim" (or the Judge, when opening the trial) can contact the Guard Captain, who may at any time choose to perform a Restrain act upon the defendant in order to keep that defendant within the country for a period of up to 48 hours.

However the Restrain Limit command has been raised recently to 104 hours in this release: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ykMEWOpD2_SX_322U5SN-cOQUfGBqA_15ga01lPn9gw/edit?usp=sharing and post release to 168 hours to reflect new Trial Duration. This is also stated in another wiki page:

http://wiki.medieval-europe.eu/index.php?title=Restrain#Restrain_Duration

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Restrain duration will be raised to 168 hours to be consistent with the following trial schedule time:

I controlled also the mechanic and i confirm that the limit for a restrain is 168 hours.
Therefore, this trial can continue and should not be invalidated. These messages will be removed after 24 hours. Wiki will be fixed.

Please finish the trial within the stated time imits (excluded time of Administration intervention).





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Re: Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #12 on: 09 November, 2015, 12:16:28 PM »
As Defense do not object any of accusation presented by prosecution, I have no other option and proclaim Stefan Borsa  guilty.

Defendant is recognized violator of law and receive the maximum sentence for 1000 sp fee and 3 days in jail.

By so this trial is over.

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Re: [CLOSED]Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #13 on: 09 November, 2015, 12:43:54 PM »
Because i said:

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Until is sorted out, the criminal must stay in region, and the trial is temporarily suspended.

The criminal will be bought back in Costanta.

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Re: [CLOSED]Wallachia vs Stefan Borsa
« Reply #14 on: 09 November, 2015, 12:51:52 PM »
The Criminal has been brought back to Constanta. Please proceed with the imprisonment.