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[CLOSED]AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« on: 14 January, 2015, 08:59:27 PM »
By the power given to me by Our King and with sole intention to protect the order and follow the laws of Kingdom of Saxony, High Court by own initiative start this prosecution against crimes committed by Kurt Hartman, subject of Kingdom of Saxony.

I give the ground to Prosecution represented by Martin Wagner, Chancellor of the Kingdom, to present accusation against the Defendant. This must be done in 24 hours.

For Defendant  24 hours are given to find a lawyer who will represent him in this session. If he fail to do so Defendant will must defend by himself.
« Last Edit: 20 January, 2015, 12:39:38 AM by Ernst Weber »

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #1 on: 15 January, 2015, 08:56:41 AM »
Your Honor,

To avoid problems previous judge has with court sesion performing because of incompetence and lack of knowladge abour court procedure I plad this court sesion to be proceded as example for strict following the rules.

I will also take freedom to answer some questions Defendants has about procedures, and ask you for pardon if you prefer to do so personaly.

As it is stated here: http://wiki.medieval-europe.eu/index.php?title=The_Trial there is a tree steps to open court procedure.

I. If so the Judge then opens that trial in the appropriate Kingdom Court of Law sub-forum.

It is done as we can see here.

II . He would then notify both the Defendant and the Prosecutor via PM of the trial along with a URL link to the pertinent trial post.

It is done. All accused receive a letter:

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Subject: Call to court

Text: Dear Sir,

You are called to the court of Kiev to answer to accusation in violating of Saxony laws.

This is the link to the court session: (URL of court session)

This text is provided to us from our collegue from Kiev so there was a understandable copy-paste error with mentioning court of Kiev. But it is acceptable  because the main goal of letter is to inform accused about opened court session and providing hiwm with URL (something previous Judge fail to do according case archives)

III. Also the Judge of the Kingdom where the trial is taking place must use the in-game functions of the Court House building menu to create the Crime Procedure. In the form he needs to fill out:

    The name of the Defendant
    A summary of the crime(s) he is accused of
    The URL link to the Trial

Once submitted, the Judge can go back to the Court menu to view and administer the Crime Procedure.


All trials was opened in Court building in game. I dont know why defendants think that they must be visible for them, but if it so they must report to admin technical malfunction. Cases are opened in game in 10 minutes period after forum topics are created and administration can check and confirm it.

Now , your honor, I would like to plead for procedural issue. I see that you wish to combain two phases of court :

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1: Starting the Trial:

The Judge starts the Trial. He must present the Defendant and the Prosecutor and ask them if they want to appoint an Attorney (Defense) or a Barrister (Prosecution).

The Defendant and the Prosecutor must declare if they want to appoint someone or not, and tell the Judge who they are appointing.
Also, if the Defendant and the Prosecutor can’t find lawyers and can’t speak the native language of the Judge or of the other Parts, they can ask to have a “Basic English” trial, so that it could be understood using common translating tools.
This whole step must be done within 24 hours from the Judge’s opening post.

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2: Opening remarks by the Prosecution:

The Prosecution should open the trial with a presentation of the facts of the case, and a listing of what laws were broken by the Defendant. All evidence should be presented at this time and may take the form of a Screenshot (see sidebar).
The Prosecution can call up to two Witnesses, who will present their witness.
This whole step must be done within 24 hours from the Prosecutor post.

I ask you to not do so , as I say previously, because of my wish this court session to be an exemplar. I ask you for permision to have my 24 hours to present my accusation only after Defendant name his lawyer or state thet he will defend by himself.

I hope my plead will be accepted.


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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #2 on: 16 January, 2015, 05:54:20 PM »
As the procedure was freezed by highest authority I will give to all defenders 6 more hours to name their lawyer if the want. If they dont court will expect from them to defend themselves.

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #3 on: 17 January, 2015, 02:08:13 AM »
Since sir Kurt Hartman not used the right to appoint a lawyer, he will have to defend himself.

Prosecution have 24 hours from this moment to present accusations against the Defendant.

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #4 on: 17 January, 2015, 10:14:21 PM »
Your Honor,

On 8 Nov 1314 AD Kingdom of Saxony, ruled by Marius Von Schliefen, declare a war to Grand Principality of Kiev. This is the date was the beginning of the most terrible period in history of Saxony. Ex-king Marius become an enemy of mighty and resourceful country populated with brave and pride people, and with this act make whole Saxony a target for their vengeance, especially after conquering of kievan province Pinsk with its population. All this acts of Marius`s government was not provoked in any way from peoples of Kiev. As Marius himself state in his letter to His Majesty king Radost , he start this war because he have some issues with Prussia. The connection between issues Saxony-Prussia and aggression against Kievan territory is unclear. But outcomes from this actions are very clear - religious riots, repressions for over 50% of saxonian population, creating of concentration camp in Pinsk, and in the end revolution.

All this create suffering and inconveniences for all people of Saxony - those who live here many years in peace and serenity and those  who become citizens of Saxony in result of Saxon aggression.

In this Prosecution see a violation of National Security Act, as all actions of Marius`s, and after that Herald`s government have as result disturbance of the peace and internal security of Saxony.

Defendant Kurt Hartman was vassal of THUERINGEN and by so an instrument and collaborator of the tyrants in South Saxony.

Prosecution see in this open offence against people of Saxony and violation of National Security Act via disturbance of the peace and internal security of Saxony. So Prosecution ask for maximum punishment of fine of 1000 sp and 3 days of imprisonment.

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #5 on: 18 January, 2015, 12:15:42 AM »
I give the ground for Defence. Lord Kurt Hartman can present his plead.

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #6 on: 19 January, 2015, 10:45:04 AM »
Mr. Wagner,

I reject your accusation, since you present no actual  action of me, nor any kind of eveidence for me taking actions against any group of saxon people. In contrary you'll find many whitnesses hwo would state the opposite.
Furthermore you did not explain in how far I would have been able to influence the decission making of the King, and in how far my actions were an  ancroachment to the saxon law in detail.

At the same time the court accepts the present king to be an even hiegher authority then your Honor himself. How can you accuse loyal saxonian for the decissions of the absolute authority of the king.

So far everybody has to be considered not guilty until the opposite has been prooven!

Regards
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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #7 on: 19 January, 2015, 11:58:17 AM »
[Splitted and Moved Topic of Gotz, he can't speak in this trial].

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #8 on: 19 January, 2015, 09:38:18 PM »
Your Honor,

Defendant was not just a servant of the king but ruler of South authonomy, so for Prosecution is hard to belive that he did not participate in taking deceision leading to grave resoults for the Saxony.

I have nothing to add.

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Re: AZ: 1314/020 The people against Kurt Hartman
« Reply #9 on: 20 January, 2015, 12:39:19 AM »
I would give the ground to the Defendant for closing remarks but a see no need for this. Lord Kurt Hartman with his acts show and prove us that his loyalty is not to any king but to his country. By this he can not violate National Security Act but contrary - he do everything posible to return peace and serenity for Saxony.

This court recognize Kurt Hartman as NOT-GUILTY.

By this I close this trial.