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law - discussion and addition
« on: 17 October, 2014, 06:10:38 PM »
Hello everyone,

My thoughts on the subject of our new laws, for all of you to discuss, change, reject or whatever.
I do not know the game mechanics well enough to judge how important some laws are and I think about laws more from a roleplay perspective than a mechanical point of view.
I noticed this is seldomly done in any kingdom's law I checked. Though I do like most of the Kievan's latest law installment.
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Re: law - discussion and addition
« Reply #1 on: 17 October, 2014, 06:11:17 PM »
On Konstantinoupolis' market: / better: On Constantinople's market (but even with english setting it is called Konstantinoupolis ingame, so could be used)

It is forbidden for anyone other than Byzantine citizens to post a sale at the Konstantinoupolis' market for any product or raw material without the permission of the Emperor or Treasurer of the Byzantine Empire or the Duke (Vassal) of Knostantinoupolis. Doubloons are excluded from that law. Failure to comply with that law is considered an administration offence and is punishable by a fine up to 100 silver. Failure to comply with that law for a second or subsequent times, is considered a minor crime and is punishable by up to 1 day imprisonment and a fine up to 200 silver. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

(why exclude someone from the market? maybe just forbid foreigners to sell stuff at a lower price than the lowest available at the moment so they cannot dump prices?)

On markets:

It is forbidden for everybody to buy from Byzantine markets any product at a price of 0 silver without the seller's previous explicit approval. The vendor can/ has to (is that voluntary or mandatory?) send a message to the Judge naming the intended buyer. The Judge will then inform the buyer that he received the message to validate the deal. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punishable by up to 2 days imprisonment, a fine up to 400 silver, plus a compensation the seller can ask for. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire but enforced only at the vendor's request.

On manipulation of markets:

It is forbidden for everybody to buy products or raw materials from Byzantine markets and resell them at Byzantine markets at higher prices. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punishable by up to 2 days imprisonment, up to a 400 silver fine and the Judge can demand a compensation for raw materials that were extracted (from the market, right? if so, maybe just say bought). The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On raw resources/farms:

It is forbidden for any person other than Byzantine citizens to extract or use any Raw Resources/Farms inside the borders of the Byzantine Empire without the permission of the Emperor or the Treasurer of the Byzantine Empire. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punishable by up to 2 days imprisonment, up to a 400 silver fine and the Judge can ask for compensation for raw materials that were extracted. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On Korinthos' iron mine:

It is forbidden for everybody to extract iron from the iron mine of Korinthos without the permission of the Emperor or Treasurer of the Byzantine Empire or the Duke (Vassal) of Korinthos. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punishable by up to 2 days imprisonment, up to a fine of 400 silver and the Judge can ask for compensation for raw materials that were extracted. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On contracts:

It is allowed for individuals to sign contracts with the Judge as witness. In order for the contract to be signed following requirements must be met: at least three copies of the contract, one for every party of the contract and one for the Judge. Both parties also have to send a message to the Judge with the contract stating that they signed it and that this message can be used as proof in a trial. The Judge may refuse to be a witness for a contract if he wishes to do so. (and then what?) Failure to fulfill the signed contract by any party is considered a capital offence and is punished by up to 3 days in prison, up to 1000 silver fine and the party that failed to fulfill the contract will be asked for compensation if the other party can prove its damages. (who decides what the compensation will be?) The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire, but enforced only at the injured party's request.

On religious buildings:

It is forbidden for everybody to damage any religious building inside the borders of the Byzantine Empire without the permission of the Emperor or the Chaplain. Failure to comply with that law is considered a capital offence and is punishable by up to 3 days imprisonment and a fine up to 1000 silver. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.
(damage in fact can only be done to religious buildings, but from a roleplay perspective, it would be better to say damage any public building)

On the plague:

It is forbidden for everybody who carries the plague or any other sickness to stay inside the borders of the Byzantine Empire except for those who have arranged to be cured from a Basileus/Hiereus that is in charge of a Shrine inside the borders of the empire. In that case they have to follow exactly the instructions of the Basileus/Hiereus until they are cured. Failure to comply with that law is considered capital offence and is punished by up to 3 days in prison and up to 1000 silver fine. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On revolts:

It is forbidden for everybody to plan, finance, participate or declare a revolt against the Byzantine Emperor or against the empire's allies. Failure to comply with that law is considered capital offence and is punished by up to 3 days in prison and up to 1000 silver fine (and banishment from the empire?). The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.
(this one is funny)

On Guard Captains:

It is forbidden for Guard Captains of Countries to which the Byzantine Empire is either neutral or hostile, to cross the borders of the Byzantine Empire without permission of the Emperor. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punishable by up to 2 days imprisonment and a fine up to 400 silver. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On arrests:

It is forbidden for any Guard Captain other than those employed by the Byzantine Empire to arrest any Byzantine citizen inside the borders of the Empire without the Emperor's permission. Failure to comply with that law is considered a capital offence and is punishable by up to 3 days imprisonment and a fine up to 1000 silver. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On confiscations:

It is allowed for Byzantine Guard Captains to confiscate any items from Byzantine markets that belong to people that have not been active for 10 days and are not in meditation mode. Byzantine Guard Captains arre allowed to keep 50% of the confiscated items, while the rest is considered property of the Byzantine Empire (and how handed over to whom/which structure?). If those aforementioned people return active the Guard Captain and the Empire is obligated to return the items to them on demand. In a case of confiscation that is considered abuse (by whom?) the Guard Captain is obligated to pay the owner the refund of the confiscated object. Failure to comply with that law is considered a severe crime and is punished by up to 2 days in prison, up to 400 silver fine and the Judge can ask for compensation. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.

On hostile nations:

It is forbidden for citizens of hostile kingdoms to cross the borders of the Byzantine Empire. It is also forbidden for citizens of kingdoms that are allied to such kingdoms to cross the borders of the Empire, without the permission of the Emperor. (maybe better to say enter Byzantine territory, so they are free to leave our lands, as soon as possible of course) Failure to comply with that law is considered a capital offence and is punished by up to 3 days in prison and up to 1000 silver fine. The law is active from 27 September of year 1314 and does not expire.


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Re: law - discussion and addition
« Reply #2 on: 17 October, 2014, 06:20:00 PM »
market
Merchants who sell above 20% above average price are considered usurers, though those prices are legal unless the Emperor decrees otherwise.
The Emperor may set or cancel minimum and/ or maximum limits for prices at Byzantine markets at any time.
Any artisan is obliged to join the guild apropriate to his craft. The guild may choose to determine prices, regulate apprenticeships, issue or cancel work permits on its own discretion, but may be overruled at any time by the Emperor.

court
When ordered to appear before court, any person is free to seek advice by a lawyer (NPC) or defend himself
Fraud and false testimony before court will be prosecuted and punished as a minor crime by the judge
The administrator of an academy or training ground may sue for compensation upon any person who repeatedly cancels his lessons
All trials must start within 7 days after the incident. Once opened, trials will be closed only with the judge's sentence.
If claimant or accused or their representatives do not appear before the court, the judge may order a Captain of the Guard to arrest the person.
Any person, inhabitants or visitor may sue a Byzantine citizen for thievery, libel, assault, robbery, adultery, murder at one of the Empires courts.
Burden of proof lies with the claimant of any trial. Without proof, the accused is to be judged not guilty and must not be burdened with any cost, compensation or penalty. In such case, the claimant may have to pay 25 sc for the trial.
Hight of any compensation and penalty is set by the Emperor or one of his judges alone, according to the categories as listed above though the claimant is asked to specify the amount he claims during the trial.

religious
If they wish, moribund people may pass their property to either the church or the Empire by donating to either the shrine or castle in Constantinople or Korinthos
It is forbidden to work on any holiday
It is forbidden to disturb any feast, mass, ceremony or prayer
Theft of church property is considered a more severe crime than common thievery. So is any physical assault upon members of the clergy.
It is forbidden to shed blood on holy ground.
Any person seeking asylum on holy ground must not be besieged any further. The cleric attending the holy institution or his superiors may decide his fate by either taking the person applying for asylum into their care or handing him over to the Guard Captain.
A clerical position and title has to be given by election and may not be bought.
Clerics are forbidden to force anyone to donate to the church or perform any charitable service for the church.
Violation will be punished.

public order
It is forbidden to remove material from any ruined building within Constantinople's city walls.
It is forbidden to contaminate any well, cistern or aqueduct in a way it is not usable anymore, for they are considered essential.
It is forbidden to linger on the city's walls in times of war. The main city gates will be shut over night. Smaller gates may be permanently shut or restricted for civilians at times of war.
Taxes, claimed by the Empire, are due whenever a bargain is struck. All prices include the tax.

military
A soldier has to buy his equipment in times of peace to not delay a campaign/ will be given armor and a weapon at the start of a campaign for free / has to pay for it
A soldier is supposed to earn a living in times of peace on his own.
Any soldier in the Empire's service is obliged to follow a call to arms within 3 days.
A soldier who cannot maintain his property and so cannot earn his usual income, while on a military campaign will be paid by the Empire xx sc per day / a share of the loot.
Byzantium - glory, commitment, burden
"It was the eternal scene of mankind - the minions of violence, the victim and forever the third, the spectator, who does not raise his hands, does not defend the victim, does not try to free him, because he fears for his own savety and whose own savety is therefore threatened forever." Remarque
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